Babs DeLay

Babs DeLay

March 11, 2019

No More Miracles

When I was 15 years old, I was sent by my family to a small private school by the name of Wasatch Academy in little Mt. Pleasant, Utah, just north of Manti on scenic Highway 89.  Manti is the site of the fifth temple built by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and you cannot miss that stone white church when you cruise through town because it sits high atop a hill overlooking the Sanpete valley.

Most people know Manti because of the Mormon Miracle Pageant which has been held on the grounds outside the Temple every summer since 1967. But alas, the church has announced that 2019 will be the last time visitors can see the outdoor theatrical performance where Christ visits America. You may say ‘This ain’t my circus and not my monkey’, but the fine folk of this tiny central Utah are mighty sad and returning visitors will miss Manti’s famous BBQ turkey sandwiches.  The two week extravaganza draws over 15,000 people to a town that has little more than 3000 residents and is massive money-maker for gas stations, hotels, restaurants and the businesses that line Main Street during the last two weeks of June.

The pageant is the story of the early days of the Church (think hand carts) and LDS tales and beliefs of characters and events of ancient American inhabitants found in the Book of Mormon. It was written by Grace Johnson in the 1940’s and in the 1950’s both BYU and BYU-Hawaii used her story as a reader’s theater at the schools. It was adapted into the pageant form in 1970 by Macksene Rux who directed the shows in Manti from 1970 to 1989. During the early years it was funded by local donations and vehicles were banned on Temple grounds so props, scenery, chairs, and equipment had to be hauled up the hill or put over the fence. It was an instant hit with locals and tourists and over 4.5 million visitors have watched the show since it’s beginning. There are over 1000 cast members, each in a costume and none are paid. You can volunteer right now by going on the website to participate in this last and final production.

What’s odd is that in 1991 the church announced that the production would close after 25 successful years. The Vice-chair of the pageant, President Gordon B. Hinkley refused to cancel the show! Will someone from the Quorum step up and save the town and the show like Judy Garland and Mickey Rooney did in the 1939 movie ‘Babes in Arms’?  Only the Church will tell. My guess is this show will sell out almost as fast as the Tabernacle Choir’s gig with Kristin Chenoweth Christmas Concert at Temple Square. Both holiday concerts and the pageant have always been free, but you have to get tickets ( to attend the show.

March 08, 2019

A Trolley's Back

This past October a large crane lowered an original street car (picture a cable car in San Francisco) in front of the Pottery Barn and just south of Whole Foods back to its home in Trolley Square on 700 East and 500 South. It is so ironic to me that at one time almost half the population of Salt Lake City rode trolley cars around town on almost 150 miles of track and today the Utah Transit Authority (UTA) can barely fill the TRAX trains during rush hours on less than 50 miles of rail. What was in went out, and now we want it back because mass transit is good.

The first trolley company was started by sons of Brigham Young and their first passenger trolley car was pulled by mules along 300 West South Temple to 300 South and State. I found a trolley ticket in an old book of Robert Browning poems I bought years ago and the fare was five cents. Originally it cost ten cents to ride but the brothers found by lowering the price they’d get more riders. The first electric streetcars in Utah began operating in October of 1908 and they were housed in the beautiful Mission-style buildings at Trolley Square.

I was a Planning and Zoning Commissioner for Salt Lake City when Whole Foods came to the city and wanted to put in a mega store smack dab in the middle of this historic block. I was definitely not a fan of the size of the project and how its designers originally failed to fit the new in with the old, but as you can see, Whole Foods did downsize its design and eventually fit in among the historic ‘barns’. They were built by a notorious railroad tycoon named Edward H. Harriman. He was infamous for never stopping to hunt down Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid who had robbed his trains many times. He bought the 10 acre block of Trolley Square that had originally been the ‘Territorial Fairgrounds’ and put in the buildings that eventually held 144 street cars. There were blacksmiths and carpenters, conductors and electricians working inside the buildings. The old First Security Bank stand-alone structure (now gone and previously located where Whole Foods is now) was used to store sand needed for the rail system.

There’s a lot of history at Trolley Square and bringing back probably the only remaining original trolley car makes many people smile. It had been in storage for almost a decade after bulldozers came to start the food chain’s new location. The car has last housed the Trolley Wing Co. The urban mall is undergoing growth under new owner Khosrow Semnani and we may see a return of movie theaters, a food court as well as the multifamily development that will be going in across the street (600 South).

February 27, 2019

Water Terror

Sandy City residents are pretty pissed off that their water managers didn’t let them know that the fluoride tank in the main pump room added waaaay too much of the chemical to city water two weeks ago and turned some faucet blasts yellow-no bueno!  This chemical, promoted to prevent tooth decay, also can accelerate water pipe corrosion. So why are we putting this chemical in our water?

Step back in time to January 25, 1945 when Grand Rapids, Michigan became the first U.S. City to fluoridate it’s drinking water. The city did their due diligence and decided that adding fluoride (a toxic chemical in high doses) would be a good thing to protect the tooth enamel of children and adults. Well, right wing opponents immediately chimed in to say that adding the chemical to the water was a communist plot and that this added chemical would ‘Bring America to its knees by poisoning the water supply.’ We were, at that time, deep into a Cold War against the Soviet Union and their respective allies. Rumors were flying that communists were infiltrating every inch of American life and that we should be diligent in protecting ourselves from the ‘Red Terror’. Anyhoodle, as the years wore on, the fluoride scare faded away and the Cold War ended.

A few years ago, WIRED magazine reported that “roughly 170 million Americans drink fluoridated water today, and statistics show that dental health in the U.S. has improved dramatically as a direct result of it”. In the 1970’s Utah public health officials explored adding fluoride to water treatment facilities in Salt Lake County. Park City, Orem and Tooele had it in their water, but only 2.5% of the entire state drank the chemical in their daily water intake. A poll by the Public Utilities Dept. found 70% of 705 local residents were in favor of fluoridation. The 1,100 member Utah Dental Association was in favor of adding it noting that Utah was one of the least fluoridated states in the country. It got on the ballot and failed.

In 2003 voters in Davis and Salt Lake Counties approved fluoride in our water supplies. The Center for Disease Control had urged ALL states to put in the optimum levels of the chemical to prevent tooth decay. The chair of the Utah County Health Board stated that ‘Tooth decay is unbridled in Utah…call it an epidemic, especially among our low-income people…and dental disease is the largest health problem among elementary school children.”

Now it seems we may not want this chemical in our water any more. Sandy citizens in public hearings pointed out that fluoride is in virtually every toothpaste and that we don’t need additives to our drinking water supply.  Methinks since the power outage/accident in Sandy (which caused the massive amount of chemical to be released into the water system) that more people may be talking about their own drinking water. Sandy officials found copper and lead in the water after the accident which caused them to hand out water bottles to citizens in the effected areas. The EPA website has much info on safe drinking water at ‘home water testing’.

February 12, 2019

Be Careful

Picture this: you’re a self-employed REALTOR (we all are self employed). You haven’t sold a home in a month and a potential buyer calls and wants to see your new listing you just put on the market. It’s kinda in the middle of nowhere, but you agree to meet this stranger at 8 PM in the dark. You show up and the stranger turns out to be a rapist, robber, murderer or all of the above. This happened to a local agent about twenty some odd years ago who worked at a real estate brokerage in Sugar House. This was pre-internet days when those free ‘homes’ magazines were out at every grocery store. In this woman’s story we learned (later) that the perpetrator profiled the agent by her photo that was published in the magazine and went to check out her listings to see which one was the most secluded, with the least amount of neighbors. He liked her looks and so called her, offered to pick her up at her office, and took her out there. She began to show him the home,  walked down into the basement ahead of him and he then grabbed her and raped her. This sick f-k then drove her back to her office (located across from the Rape Recovery Center) but was soon tracked down by a helicopter/dogs in the canyon and arrested, convicted, and went to prison.

REALTORS drive nice cars and show nice homes and are victims of crime all over the United States.  This unfortunate fact was brought back home this past week when three people allegedly killed a local real estate agent and hid his body in the crawl space of a home they were renting. The agent had gone to evict the tenants but sadly they decided to evict him off the planet. They supposedly cleaned up the property by pulling out the bloody carpet (but neglected to wipe the hardwood floors) and stole his car. It took two days for the police to find his body after he was reported missing.

My friend and fellow REALTOR, Dave Stokoe, worked for RanLife Real Estate in Sandy, Utah. He was a stand-up guy, who, despite being self-employed, was always in a cheery mood. He leaves behind a wife and four kids. Could he have prevented the attack? We don’t know the real details but we do know no one should ever lose their life over a property dispute. A vigil with hundreds of folks was held last Monday and a page has been set up to help his family with funeral expenses.  

How safe is your work environment? In this day and age even walking to your car to go home can be scary. Dave didn’t get up the morning of January 17th and expect to die. Be careful out there folks and make sure you give a hug to the people you love every day…because one day your life will flash before your eyes and you better make sure it’s worth watching.

February 12, 2019

Practice What You Preach

Ugh, the Utah State Legislature is back in session. Hide your wallets, and gird your loins brothers and sisters! Did you know nine of every 10 legislators are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and are white, male and Republican? That data might explain how the legal blood alcohol level got changed this year to .05-the lowest in the country, and how Prop 2 (the voter-approved access to medical cannabis) may be legal to use but completely impossible to obtain for a long, long time. They love to gird their loins and ours as well, and gosh, they do it for so little pay.  But hey, all elected officials get to park free in Salt Lake City during the 45 days they are in session.

There are many parking spaces at and around our state capitol building and two large public lots east of the Senate building. While votes come and go, committees meet, and back room deals happen in those sacred halls on the hill, citizens can have a hard time finding any open spaces once the 29 senators and 75 representatives, and their staff members park their vehicles. If you’ve ever been to a protest on the hill during the annual legislative session you know how hard it is to park and hopefully have learned NOT to try and park there by walking, biking or taking transit.  Neighbors of the building do get heightened protection from parking enforcement this time of year because there are so many violators parking illegally by blocking private citizen’s driveways and alleyways (I know, I used to live across the street). Frankly, it’s a big parking and often traffic mess during that month and a half every year.

The irony is that UTA has Bus Route 500 set up to run FREE to and from downtown to the Capitol building and back each year, and the bus is often empty. You can catch it at the stop right above the Church office parking under Main Street and the Church headquarters.  There are also 32,000 parking spaces in downtown Salt Lake City where a person could park and then walk to a bus stop to avoid the parking hell on the hill. Salt Lake’s mayor says she wants all of us to use public transit to help cut down on our air but then encourages legislators to park (which means they have to drive first)  for free downtown during the session. In her January 2019 State of the City address she said: “From expanding bus service to working cooperatively with companies like UTA, Lyft, Uber, GreenBike, Bird and Lime, Salt Lake City is committed to exploring every idea to help people move around in a greener way.”

Maybe the Mayor envisions elected state officials will fill up their pork barrels at R & R BBQ and then waddle through the snow to a UTA stop so they can attend a Senate Agriculture Committee meeting to find ways to get tax cuts to mega corporate pig farms near Delta.  No, that will never happen because UTA ridership statistics show that most people in our state do not take public transit, including the Mayor and most of the legislators. IF the Mayor threw out the free parking rule then maybe a few of the elected might actually park in a Frontrunner lot and take a train, TRAX and bus to the hill? Don’t all elected officials seem to say in their campaign propaganda that they want to see expanded UTA service and cleaner air? Practice what you preach.

December 28, 2018

Winter Water

If you live along the Wasatch Front you may be enjoying the Jordan River Parkway Trail now that it’s completed. The river that runs from fresh water Utah Lake in Utah County to the Utah’s own version of the ‘Dead Sea’ (the Great Salt Lake) has been here for eons, but the paved trail and bridge sections for runners, walkers and bikers was only just finished in 2017 when the final bridge by the Utah State Fair Park was erected. This sweet path running through our valleys connects to the Legacy trail on the north and the Murdock Canal trail to the south, giving us 100+ miles of paved trails along the waterway. You can fish in it for Channel Cats, Bass, Bullheads, Carp and even trout with simple worm bait, kayak, and paddle board. The group ‘Utah Outdoors’ leads regular trips down the river in the summer, but you have to provide all your own equipment from boat to paddles and mandatory life jackets. There are about a dozen boat launch ramps that begin in the Orem area and lead past downtown Salt Lake. Outdoors types here love our mountains and red rocks down south but often forget about the Jordan River and the trails we have now.

Utah historians agree that the first part of Mormon pioneers arrived in the Salt Lake Valley, and five days later another party led by Brigham Young cross the Jordan River and bathes in the Great Salt Lake. The religious explorers likened the Utah river to the River Jordan in the Middle East across the planet where the Sea of Galilee drains into the Dead sea. Soon Utahn’s named the Jordan River here and groups of settlers began camps along feed creeks and rivers to the Jordan along Big and Little Cottonwood Creeks, Parley’s, Emigration and Mill creek. The river was used to float granite rock from the Little Cottonwood quarry to North Temple to be hauled up the street to Temple Square. The railroads also used the slow moving river to float logs and ties as they built rail lines through the urban areas.

Salt Lake City has announced that a second Tracy Aviary will build a second location along the river as it’s second campus in the next year and City officials plan to fund rope courses, climbing walls, canoe and bike rentals in a new park planned @Highway 201 North to about 4500 South.  There’s funding for this and police from several different agencies are also stepping forward with help to monitor homeless camps and heavy crime spots at and near those camps to make the trail safer for recreation seekers and just folks wanting to experience nature here along this slowing winding river. Grab an E-bike or just a group of friends and take a stroll this winter to see the wildlife along the banks and in the trees. Get some fresh air when you can during a low inversion day and you’ll come back as it gets warmer to maybe actually get in the water with a kayak or boat.

December 28, 2018

Tech Bucks

Don’t laugh too hard at me. The last time I played a video game I chased a small ghosty thing that ate tiny dots along a grid as I moved a stick up, down and sideways directing it along the screen. I visited my nephew recently and he’s playing an online game on his laptop where he puts together cars. Mind you, he’s 13 and knows nothing about driving a car, but he can tell you just virtually everything you want to know about from cam shafts to pistons. The good news is he wants to be a mechanic when he gets out of school, and I guess this is a great way to get him on the right career path-even if he does spend hours upon hours wasting away in the interwebs and has never held a screwdriver in his hand. I applaud all you geeks and tech folks. Computers were introduced at my college when they had green screens (no colors). You took this flexible dinner-plate thingy called a disc and slipped it inside the giant console to record your work. I remember punching a lot of F7 and F2 buttons and screaming at the machine endlessly. Nowadays storage is well, stored in a cloud. Where is said cloud? I have no clue, but I do know my email server has one, and my Apple account and my IPhone has them. I hope a kind person will show me how to find all my clouds one day so I may float happily along in my digital memories.

The big brains at Qualtrics are pretty damned happy and sending GIF’s of Kermit the Frog or Katy Perry pumping their arms and dancing to their friends and competitors. This family-owned Provo, Utah company founded back in 2002 just sold for $8 billion dollars to a German cloud. Qualtrics founders Scott, Ryan, and Jared Smith and Stuart Orgill saw a need for subscription software to collect and analyze data for market research that could show results of customer satisfaction and loyalty. The purchasing company from across the pond was pretty smart as they bought the firm before Qualtrics was about to release the stock IPO. And, this is one of the biggest sales ever in little ol’ Utah!

Huzzah for Utah tech brains and family-run companies. Seriously, it’s estimated we now have between 6000-7000 tech-related firms working within our state borders. Commuters certainly feel that when they try and get to, from or around Lehi-the heart of all big things techie along our Silicon Slopes. According to the Utah Department of Economic Development our top valued tech businesses (besides Qualtrics) are: Workfront, Instructure, Vivint, and as well as Domo, Pluralsight and Inside Sales.

October 24, 2018

Come on, scare me!

It’s that time of year where crazy people do crazier things-they go and try and find the scariest haunted house and attempt to scare the crap out of themselves. I’ll admit right off the bat that I do love a good spook house and an even better scare,  and we sure have great ones in this state. I remember years ago I had a party just after we dinosaurs were able to print off photographs from this new thing call the internet. I researched creepy looking human anomalies and odd heterosexual things and put photos of them up on my basement walls under a black light. The Halloween guests could be heard yelling ‘GROSS!’ and ‘Ew!’ which made my heart sing, especially since everyone at the party was someone from the LGBTQ community.

I’m a fan of Nightmare on 13th and Lagoon for different reasons. Nightmare traps you inside for 45 minutes with a tactile, visual and audio presentations that are truly Disney-esque quality. You either lead a pack of friends through the rooms and mazes or hide behind a pack in the hopes you won’t get shocked or chainsawed first.  Lagoon on the other hand is a different experience because you can go to the park in Farmington during the day and work your way into the night time scares. The rides are open, the place is decorated to the nines with pumpkins and wandering ghouls. There’s the Malevolent Mansion, a haunted Pioneer Villiage way back in the dark section of the park, a non-scary straw maze for kids and new this year, seances.  This fully immersive haunted experience blends ‘chilling live performance, intense physical effects and unexpected audience participation’. You purchase a ticket for that show on top of your Lagoon pass and show times are on ever hour during the weekends. There are adult and kid haunted houses and kids who purchase $1 glow sticks are not to be scared and can go to no-scare zones. Also, the park doesn’t allow visitors to wear make-up, masks or costumes.

While you’re out there notice that Utah’s oldest amusement park is going to be opening a Biergarten next year!  They’ve had beer sales permits for years but this will the first that Lagoon has sold alcohol on park grounds since 1979.  They have over the years allowed beer trucks to park over at the RV campground during some holidays and when special groups rented the area.  This is irony like when street cars used to travel downtown and to Lagoon, went out of fashion, and now everyone wants fast light rail to get them to destinations in Utah. The park began as a swimming area and dance hall and had quite the saloon. Now we’ll get to experience a Biergarten with steins of different local and imported cold brew and beer foods. The liquid intoxicant won’t be allowed to be taken out of the Garten as beer will be sold in glass mugs.

October 22, 2018

Vendor Resources

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Appliance Repair

Paul’s Appliance Repair 801-262-7626


Hidden Oak Tree Care 385-800-TREE

Basements & Crawlspaces

Utah Basement Systems Blair Scoresby 801-936-1244

Johnny Spicer (basements and remodels) 801-979-1004

Carpet Repair, Installation & Cleaning

A-1 Carpet Man, Bob Slick 801-631-0133

Bleyl Carpet & Blinds, Sheldon Wayne 801-573-4683

Rug Busters, Mike Petragallo 801-243-8082

Bickmore Carpets (sales and install, no cleaning) 801-268-0545

Chemical Testing

ALS Environmental Meth, Mold, Asbestos testing 801-266-7700

Watchdog Home Inspectors 801-580-5551

Drywall Morgan Reese801-599-1925


Central Electric, Peter Robbins 467-5479

Everest Electric, Luke Edson 801-330-0988

Bob Holloway 263-2300

Foundation & Concrete

BASECO Rock, Thomas Jefferies 801-222-3280

Davenport Foundation Repair 844-278-0011

Garage Doors and Repair

Crawford Doors 801-487-7442

General Contractors

Nick Glazier (good with concrete too!) 801-931-1253

Raintree Builder, Thomas 801-261-2035

Boardwalk Remodeling, Kevin Meyer 801-595-6016

Blue Lake, Ryan Gardner 801-631-1026

Handyman Services

Don Snyder 801 792-6235

Tony Farrer 801-897-8879

Home Staging

Nichole & Company 801-671-0027

Urban Revival 801-244-2688

House Cleaning

Kara Cope Cleaning 801-671-8278

Getting It Clean Housekeeping, Scott & Monica 801-833-8283

Teresa's Cleaning Services, Susan Ellis 801-755-8381

Cynthia River's Cleaning 801-651-3455 or 702-741-9860


Hartman Heating & Air Conditioning, Paul Hartman 801-264-8300

KP Heating & Plumbing (Boiler work too), Ken Poulsen 801-597-8863

Affordable Heating & Cooling, Harold Bunting 801-842-2482

Pro Gas Heating, Service, Maintenance Green Sticker Service, Tom Howard 801-699-6682


Michael Hamberlin (hardwoods, laminate & stairs) 801-403-9035

Tile For Less (DIY, can cut tiles there) 801-486-5765

Bickmore Carpets 801-268-0545

Indoor Air Quality & Surface Decontamination

BioSweep of Utah, Jim Gregory 801-550-9764


Cody Davis 801944-8073


Superior Insulation 801-972-3737


Olvera Landscaping 801-865-4688 or 801-835-4221

Soul Garden, Marinda Coleman 801-750-3928

Sage's Way, Chase Fetter 801-573-8934

Jody Barone Landscape Architect 970-215-5944

Locksmiths and Keys

Glen's Key Lock & Safe 801-413-0568

Rudy's Key & Repair Service 801-466-4191

Meth Decontamination Certified Decontamination of Utah, Mike Rowzee 801-809-6932


The Other Side Academy 801-953-0409


Cavalier Plumbing, Gary 801-277-7411, 801-815-0474

Todd Holbrook 801-485-6526

Towers-Murray Plumbing Boilers & Radiant Heat 801-262-4777


John Whaley 801-554-2839

Paul Lippert 801-599-5350

Matt Hooper 801-712-0435

All Colors Painting, Francisco 801-836-4285

Radon Mitigation

John Lui 801-688-9838

Radon Be Gone, John Seidel 801-510-8705


Exceptional Roofing, Alan Archuletta 801-381-8437

Layton Roofing (flat or membrane specialists) 801-495-3939 office or Bill Whitaker, 801-414-470

Advantage Roofing & Construction, Jess Wilkerson 801-599-6065

Rooter & Drains

Apollo Rooter, Blake 801-466-4994

Remarkable Rooter 801-467-8511

Spas, Pools & Hot Tubs

DeVo Hot Tubs Jurgen DeVoss 801-688-1266

Structural Engineering

Scott Bernhisel 801-466-0931

Lynn Draper 801-272-2000

Joseph Crilly- 801-274-2831


ESP Stucco Terry George 801-554-6401

Jim Sorenson Plastering & Stucco 435-649-6260

Ryan Sorenson 435-901-8948

Dennis Sargeant 801-671-2840


Bush and Gudgell 801-685-6194

Element Land Surveying, Chad & Troy 435-671-0038


Martin Design Joshua Martin 801-209-8878

Window Coverings Bickmore Carpets and Blinds 801-268-0545

Window Washing

Juan Cruz 801-949-6361

Alta Vista Window Cleaning 801-808-5698

October 07, 2018

DIY Don'ts

I only post on Instagram odd things I find in homes that I see when listing or showing properties. Most of the shots are of retro Barbie dream kitchens from the 1960’s, plaid shag carpet or wall paper archeology. We’ve become a world of trends, where fast fashion and fast designs come and go in a heartbeat. I have no clue how anyone can keep up with all the social media, blogs, photos, videos, television shows dedicated completely to home décor trends. What I can tell you from what I know personally is that I see a lot of interiors in my line of work each week and to steal from the ‘Things That Must Go’ segment on Radio From Hell X96, here’s my list:

-bare bulbs and harsh light fixtures. If you see it hanging at Homo Depot in the home light fixture isle, it’s already passe. Invest in a classic chandelier as your centerpiece if you’re lucky enough to have a dining room.

-dark wood and Italian-style décor. Tuscan tiles are meant for Italy. Ask my friend Michelle who owns Tile for Less in Riverton or Salt Lake-and she may start gagging at the thought of anyone replacing classic marble or hardwood for a dusty stone castle look.

-wallpaper borders at the tops of walls or at chair level. No, no, and no.

-the TV show Mad Men brought the ‘Mid-Mod’ phenom in home décor back. The show went off the air 3 years ago, and as far as trends go, the avocado greens and harvest golds are again, outdated.

-antlers and mason jars. I’m not sure either item will go away as Utahns are avid hunters and home canners. I personally would gasp if someone threw a good Mason jar in the glass recycling because with a new lid I could throw in a batch of jam next time I hop over to the Farmer’s Market downtown.

-sponge painted walls or walls with stencils. Sponge walls usually look like your friend’s kids came over and had a party in your home without your permission. Most people cannot stencil straight or well enough to make repetitive designs look good. DIY don’t.

-dried flower arrangements and wreaths. It is BAD Feng Shui to have dead plants in your living space. They get dusty and ad shed/break apart as they age. Also, silk plants can look good in the right spot, but they also get dusty and faded. And no to fake bowls of fruit. Try your green thumb next time you decorate and eat real food.

-cottage cheese ceilings. This spray on crap originally was made from asbestos! But in 1978 when it was banned from inside homes, the manufacturers went to a paper or Styrofoam material. Ohhh, and sparkles cost more to add after the spraying was complete!  IF your ceiling is not asbestos, you can scrape that crap off by wetting it, scraping, wetting, scraping, etc. If it is asbestos (and you can have that material tested locally for cheap) you can legally remove it yourself. We are the only state left in the nation where a homeowner can do the job themselves (albeit abide by the disposal rules).